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Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

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    Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

    Hello

    I am looking for some advice on how to fight against a Parking Charge Notice which was issued to me by SMART PARKING at Astle Park in West Bromwich. I was there on a Sunday (the car park was very quiet) and I had purchased my ticket from the pay and display machine for £1 for an hour. I returned back to my car In time, but was sat getting directions before I drove off the car park, to which the "SMART" carmeras have registered me leaving (even though I wasn't aware that you number plate was scanned at this car park) approx. 13 minutes after I still have my ticket which I put in the window of my car. I have never come across such non-sense in my life. The PNC is for £100, I feel this is completely unfair as it was a Sunday it was quiet and I was back at my car for the time on my ticket. I was not aware that this carmeras were on this car park

    Please could any help with what I would need to do, as no way I am paying £100 for a £1 per hour parking to which I paid for my hour

    Please Help

    Thanks

    Alex
    Last edited by HollywoodSixx13; 7th July 2017, 08:49:AM. Reason: spelling
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    Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

    Hi Alex, welcome to LB.

    Firstly, do not ID the driver.
    Second, could you post up the Notice to Keeper? (Obscure personal details, but leave dates visible). Also pictures of site signage.
    I'm guessing that you have not disputed this yet with the parking co.
    If you do so, respond as the registered keeper, not the driver at the relevant time.

    Our @Kati can help if you have problems posting pics, etc.
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    • #3
      Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

      Notice to Keeper do you mean the letter I received though the post?

      I do not have any photos of the sit signage as I received this letter 18 Days after the "incident"
      No I have not disputed anything yet as only informed yesterday

      Thanks




      Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
      Hi Alex, welcome to LB.

      Firstly, do not ID the driver.
      Second, could you post up the Notice to Keeper? (Obscure personal details, but leave dates visible). Also pictures of site signage.
      I'm guessing that you have not disputed this yet with the parking co.
      If you do so, respond as the registered keeper, not the driver at the relevant time.

      Our @Kati can help if you have problems posting pics, etc.
      I can be emailed if you need my help loading pictures/documents to your thread. My email address is
      kati@legalbeagles.info
      But please include a link to your thread so I know who you are.

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      • #4
        Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

        Yep.
        Usually the first postal notification of the heinous misdemeanour
        CAVEAT LECTOR

        This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

        You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
        Cohen, Herb

        There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
        gets his brain a-going.
        Phelps, C. C.

        "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
        The last words of John Sedgwick

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        • #5
          Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

          I have also go the ticket you put in your window

          Hope this has attached

          Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
          Yep.
          Usually the first postal notification of the heinous misdemeanour
          Attached Files

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          • #6
            Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

            Could you confirm the date of contravention & the date on the letter?
            (Not clear on the pic)
            CAVEAT LECTOR

            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
            Cohen, Herb

            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
            gets his brain a-going.
            Phelps, C. C.

            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
            The last words of John Sedgwick

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            • #7
              Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

              The Date of the contravention - 18/06/17
              Letter dated - 04/07/17

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              • #8
                Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

                & just to confirm, this was via ANPR? (or similar).
                CAVEAT LECTOR

                This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                Cohen, Herb

                There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                gets his brain a-going.
                Phelps, C. C.

                "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                The last words of John Sedgwick

                Comment

                • #9
                  Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

                  I didn't realise until getting this letter that this car park was an ANPR, just paid and displayed (which I have the ticket also)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

                    (4)
                    The notice must be given by—
                    (a)
                    handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current address for service for the keeper, within the relevant period; or
                    (b)
                    sending it by post to a current address for service for the keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the relevant period.
                    (5)
                    The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is the period of 14 days beginning with the day after that on which the specified period of parking ended.

                    Sch 4, 9(4 & 5)
                    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
                    CAVEAT LECTOR

                    This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                    You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                    Cohen, Herb

                    There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                    gets his brain a-going.
                    Phelps, C. C.

                    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                    The last words of John Sedgwick

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

                      So does this mean because it is it is outside the 14days notice period from them that its not enforceable?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

                        Yep! (As long as you don't ID the driver.....if you do respond, do so as the registered keeper).
                        CAVEAT LECTOR

                        This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                        You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                        Cohen, Herb

                        There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                        gets his brain a-going.
                        Phelps, C. C.

                        "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                        The last words of John Sedgwick

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

                          So this could be done though the website via the appeals section? Or would it be better to do in a letter?
                          Last edited by HollywoodSixx13; 7th July 2017, 11:23:AM. Reason: additonal information

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                          • #14
                            Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

                            If it were me I'd either email them or send via land mail (with proof of posting).
                            But that's only because I don't like (or trust) those on-line response forms.
                            CAVEAT LECTOR

                            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                            Cohen, Herb

                            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                            gets his brain a-going.
                            Phelps, C. C.

                            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                            The last words of John Sedgwick

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              Re: Advice needed Smarting Parking Birmingham have issued me with a PNC

                              I think post is going to be my way as well, seems to have more of an impact than quickly doing it online. once i've finished it would you mind just making sure what I have said makes sense?
                              • 1 thank

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