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    Default Help & Advice Please re social services.

    Hi,

    I apologise in advance for the long post.

    I could really do with some advice on where I stand legally and how to proceed.

    I was found out two weeks ago that a family member is being convicted of a historical sex offence (being appealed against), this is the first i had heard anything about it, and the family member has now been put on the Sex Offenders Register.

    My son is 16 years old, and suddenly I have got social services and the police ringing me up, wanting to discuss matters in relation to my son.

    I had a phone call last Thursday from social services conducting an assessment, and they have now referred it to their area manager? I have received another call this morning from social services, who want to come out do an "assessment", when I asked them an assessment for what, she became extremely officious and asked, "You are aware of whats going on with the family member in question", my reply to her was that my son is 16. I was informed that my son is still considered a child.

    At this point, my son doesnt know anything about this, he has just had his prom, and has been given a place on the course he wants to take at college. He is in a really great place, after going through a horrible time, when his father and i seperated, and i want to try and protect him from this information for as long as possible.

    My concern is that because I have told social services that they cannot speak to my son, that is going to be seen as confrontational and that there is something wrong (even though im trying to protect him).

    What if the appeal goes through and the conviction is overturned, social services will walk away after destroying my sons world, all so they can do their job.

    I dont feel that he is at risk, in any way shape or form, so i am very confused as to what type of "assessment" is being done, what they are looking for, why they want to talk to my son, and having been told by the social worker, that she doesnt know how long the assessment will last, and that this wont be the only assessment they do, I am very concerned and feel that by standing up and questioning them, that they are going to persecute me for this.

    I would like to know, what I can do?

    Do I have to take phone calls? or can i request that everything be put in writing (as there is no he said/she said type of mistakes made then),
    Can i see any records that hold on me and my son?

    Legally, do i have to agree to the assessment?

    I dont want these people in my home, snooping around, and looking for things that arent there, can i request that any meetings are held at their place of work?

    I dont want to end up in a situation where i am treated like the criminal by social services, but I find that so far their attitude has been invasive, Im still trying to understand what ive been told, and they are jumping the gun.

    I understand that they are doing their jobs, but they have to make things worse than they are, to keep themselves in a job.

    Would it be worth getting a solicitor involved?

    All i want to do is protect my son, for as long as possible, from some horrible information, that once its imparted, can never be taken back, it cant be undone. If social services stop him from seeing the family member in question, that will be damaging for him. I dont believe he is at risk, if I did there would be no way that he would have contact with that person.

    Im stuck, lost and confused, as to the best course of action to take and i cant shake the belief that they are nothing more than interefering busy bodies with nothing better to do, they would rather harrass me and my son, who are innocent in all of this, than go and do real work, protecting those children who need it. [rant over, sorry guys]

    Ive been extremely angry, and distressed today, so thought it best that i look for a source of sensible advice.

    Regards
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    Default Re: Help & Advice Please re social services.

    I can't offer advice but can you try, if just for a moment , put yourself in the child protection teams's place.

    There has been a conviction (rightly or wrongly) and as such your son 'MAY' be at risk. It would be irresponsible and wrong for them to do nothing and could lead to someone losing their jobs.

    It is a horrible situation for you but the welfare of your son is, at this point paramount.

    Have you thought about having a word with them to see just what they will or will not disclose . It might sooth your fears

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    Default Re: Help & Advice Please re social services.

    Hi Warwick,

    I do understand that they are doing their job, and that they have a duty to follow procedure when a conviction and subsequent entry onto the sex offenders register has occured.

    It is the manner in which they are conducting themselves that I have an issue with. They arent listening to me. I have said, that I didnt want to have that conversation with my son until after the 21st which is when sentencing is due to occur, at that point, i will know better what we are actually dealing with.

    I have been told what the conviction is for (it is a historical case over 50 years ago).

    If I felt that i was being listened to, I wouldnt feel so bad or so frustrated, im not an unreasonable person, but i do need to know where i stand with this in my dealings with them.

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    I have no advice to offer either I'm afraid @slonie ... but I will tag @Crazy council and @leclerc for you in the hopes that they will be able to help xx
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    Default Re: Help & Advice Please re social services.

    Hi

    Thanks @Kati, very much appreciated. In the meantime, ive taken the decision that im going to record conversations with social services, and if they are unhappy with that, then they can put everything to me in writing.

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    Hi again Slonie

    I do get your frustration , I really do, and know what its like battling bureaucracy.

    Historic offences are so emotive , you have to trust , ultimately, in the law although when you are convinced if someones innocence it is hard to do that

    I do hope you get it sorted- your son maybe stronger than you think - but if it is likely to be made public, isn't it better he is aware now. If as seems the case, this relative lives in the local area it may well make the local newspaper and you have no control over that

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    Default Re: Help & Advice Please re social services.

    I sympathise with your situation. All I can say from my experience you're very wise to record conversations with social services as the ones I have recently encountered have less integrity than a NOTW reporter. The CAB can sometimes arrange a free half hour appointment with a solicitor who can hopefully advise you. It does seem appalling that social services are hellbent on causing psychological damage to your son, you just can't reason with these people. Good luck!

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