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    Hi All,

    Just want to say i have spent several hours reading through the threads to better my knowledge and to make life easier for all those willing to give advice. This is a fantastic forum and have gained so much knowledge through reading most of the relevant threads and would like to thank you all in advance in helping people like myself who have absolutely no clue in how to approach such topics.

    So i am planning with my partner to eventually get a mortgage and today this has come through my post a County Court Claim form (Northampton) this is all i need now and have totally forgotten about this. Its from a credit card Vanquis which i took out many many years ago and have not made any contact with them due to change of address nor heard from them till recently for the best of 4 years.


    The letter states the following and dated 20 September 2016

    1) The defendant entered into a Consumer Credit Act 1974 regulated agreement with Vanquis under account reference XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (“the Agreement”)
    2) The defendant failed to maintain the required payments and a default notice was served and not complied with
    (I don't remember a default notice, it's from 2009)
    3) The Agreement was later assigned to the claimant on 30/08/2012 and notice given to the defendant
    4) Despite repeated request for payment, the sum of £2,079.08 remains due and outstanding.
    And the claimant claims
    a) The said sum of £2,079.08
    b) Interest pursuant to s69 county courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue, accruing at a daily rate of £0.456, but limited to one year, being £166.33
    c) costs

    What i have done so far:

    I have registered on MCO and now on the final step of Acknowledgement of service p.s i did not click the option to Contest jurisdiction as live in London and i believe that only applies if living in Scotland? (if i am wrong please correct me) as i have still yet to submit.]

    Next step is to send the CCA request to the Claimant (Vanquis) ???

    And also a CPR to the solicitor (Lowell)?


    I hope i have given enough information to help me on my way, i will be posting updates regularly to also help others gain a clear understanding of whats happening.

    Reiss
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  • #2
    Re: Lowell vs Reiss

    sounds right so far [MENTION=92191]Reiss[/MENTION] ... CCA to claimant CPR to solicitors :nod:

    According to your PoC you can ask for the agreement, the default notice and the notice of assignment xx
    Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

    It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

    recte agens confido

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    • #3
      Re: Lowell vs Reiss

      Hi [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION],

      Thank you for the reply back, as i have been away for a week i have already lost time so will get the letters sent out today, Im still yet to acknowledge and confirm on the MCO as i didnt want to make any mistakes.

      Have i put myself in a worst situation in regards to time?

      Kind Regards
      Last edited by Reiss; 4th October 2016, 13:41:PM.

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      • #4
        Re: Lowell vs Reiss

        @Kati my CPR letter is looking like this, have i made it clear on what i am requesting (what you mentioned above?)



        Request for documents mentioned in a statement of case under CPR 31.14

        On 20/09/2016 I received a County Court claim from yourselves of which I have acknowledged receipt indicating my intention to defend in full.

        To enable me to file my defence and/or counterclaim, I require inspection of documents you mention in your statement of case ahead of filing my defence on 23rdth October 2016.



        1) The defendant entered into a Consumer Credit Act 1974 regulated agreement with Vanquis under account reference ******************** (“the Agreement”)
        2) The defendant failed to maintain the required payments and a default notice was served and not complied with
        (I don't remember a default notice, it's from 2009)
        3) The Agreement was later assigned to the claimant on 30/08/2012 and notice given to the defendant
        4) Despite repeated request for payment, the sum of £2,079.08 remains due and outstanding.
        And the claimant claims
        a) The said sum of £2,079.08
        b) Interest pursuant to s69 county courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue, accruing at a daily rate of £0.456, but limited to one year, being £166.33
        c) costs

        In accordance with CPR 31.15(c) I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request.

        You should note that this claim has not yet been allocated to a specific track and the provisions of CPR 27(2) are of no effect. Had your claim not been issued through CCBC the Claimant would have been obliged to attach copies of the documentation upon which it relies to the Particulars of Claim. I ************** as Defendant am entitled to see the documents on which the Claimant relies and which you will have to produce at trial. Disclosure at this stage will enable me to fully plead my case and further the Overriding Objective.

        You should ensure compliance with your CPR 31 duties and ensure that the document(s) I have requested are copied to and received by me within 7 days of receiving this letter.

        If you require more time in which to comply with this request you must tell me in writing and confirm your agreement to an extension of the time allowed for me to file my defence as allowed under CPR 15.5 so I may notify the court.

        For your information and records I enclose a copy of the formal request for a copy of the credit agreement relating to this claim, pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, which has been posted to your client with the statutory fee of £1 today, 23rd September 2016.

        I look forward to hearing from you.

        Yours sincerely

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        • #5
          Re: Lowell vs Reiss

          Originally posted by Reiss View Post
          @Kati my CPR letter is looking like this, have i made it clear on what i am requesting (what you mentioned above?)



          Request for documents mentioned in a statement of case under CPR 31.14

          On 20/09/2016 I received a County Court claim from yourselves of which I have acknowledged receipt indicating my intention to defend in full.

          To enable me to file my defence and/or counterclaim, I require inspection of documents you mention in your statement of case ahead of filing my defence on 23rdth October 2016.



          1) The defendant entered into a Consumer Credit Act 1974 regulated agreement with Vanquis under account reference ******************** (“the Agreement”)
          2) The defendant failed to maintain the required payments and a default notice was served and not complied with
          (I don't remember a default notice, it's from 2009)
          3) The Agreement was later assigned to the claimant on 30/08/2012 and notice given to the defendant
          4) Despite repeated request for payment, the sum of £2,079.08 remains due and outstanding.
          And the claimant claims
          a) The said sum of £2,079.08
          b) Interest pursuant to s69 county courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue, accruing at a daily rate of £0.456, but limited to one year, being £166.33
          c) costs

          In accordance with CPR 31.15(c) I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request.

          You should note that this claim has not yet been allocated to a specific track and the provisions of CPR 27(2) are of no effect. Had your claim not been issued through CCBC the Claimant would have been obliged to attach copies of the documentation upon which it relies to the Particulars of Claim. I Sotirakis Zannettou as Defendant am entitled to see the documents on which the Claimant relies and which you will have to produce at trial. Disclosure at this stage will enable me to fully plead my case and further the Overriding Objective.

          You should ensure compliance with your CPR 31 duties and ensure that the document(s) I have requested are copied to and received by me within 7 days of receiving this letter.

          If you require more time in which to comply with this request you must tell me in writing and confirm your agreement to an extension of the time allowed for me to file my defence as allowed under CPR 15.5 so I may notify the court.

          For your information and records I enclose a copy of the formal request for a copy of the credit agreement relating to this claim, pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, which has been posted to your client with the statutory fee of £1 today, 23rd September 2016.

          I look forward to hearing from you.

          Yours sincerely
          It might be an idea to state what you are actually requesting instead of quoting the PoC ... maybe something like:
          To enable me to file my defence and/or counterclaim, I require inspection of documents you mention in your statement of case ahead of filing my defence on23rdth October 2016.
          These are the agreement, the default notice and the notice of assignment.
          I'll tag [MENTION=55034]nemesis45[/MENTION] for you too xx
          Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

          It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

          recte agens confido

          ~~~~~

          Any advice I provide is given without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

          I can be emailed if you need my help loading pictures/documents to your thread. My email address is Kati@legalbeagles.info
          But please include a link to your thread so I know who you are.

          Specialist advice can be sought via our sister site JustBeagle

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          • #6
            Re: Lowell vs Reiss

            Originally posted by Kati View Post
            It might be an idea to state what you are actually requesting instead of quoting the PoC ... maybe something like:

            I'll tag @nemesis45 for you too xx
            Hi,

            In this claim the " agreement "," the default notice" and " the notice of Assignment" are all you need to mention, you do not need to quote a date for filing your defence the request has a nominal 7 day timescale for response.

            If Lowell Solicitors are involved one cannot predict what response one might receive as they seem to be totally disorganised.

            The CCA request is far more important.

            Keep request such as these simple and straight forward to avoid giving the claimant/ solicitors reason for dispute.

            nem

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            • #7
              Re: Lowell vs Reiss

              [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION] [MENTION=55034]nemesis45[/MENTION] Thank you guys so much no words can describe how thankful i am for the help.

              Will be posting tomorrow both recorded delivery signed for.


              My CCA is one that i have found here in the forum and goes like this:

              Dear Sir/Madam

              Re:− Account Number
              ****************0036

              Please treat this letter as a formal request for you to supply a copy of my Consumer Credit Agreement as is my entitlement under sections 77-79 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974.

              I require you to provide me with a true copy, or reconstituted copy of the credit agreement relating to any account you deem to be mine, together with any other documentation the Act requires you to provide. I expect you to comply fully and properly with this request, within the statutory time limit.

              Your obligation also extends to providing me with a statement of account. I enclose a £1 postal order, which represents payment of the statutory fee payable under the Consumer Credit Act. I understand that a copy of my credit agreement should be supplied within 12 working days from the date of this letter.

              If it is your view that you are not the creditor, s.175 of the CCA1974 applies in the case of a simple assignment, and places a duty upon you to pass this request to the creditor. In the case of an absolute assignment, you are a creditor as defined by s.189.

              I understand that under the Consumer Credit Act, creditors are unable to enforce an agreement if they fail to comply with a request for a copy of the agreement under these sections of the Act.


              Yours faithfully,

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              • #8
                Re: Lowell vs Reiss

                Originally posted by Reiss View Post
                @Kati @nemesis45 Thank you guys so much no words can describe how thankful i am for the help.

                Will be posting tomorrow both recorded delivery signed for.


                My CCA is one that i have found here in the forum and goes like this:

                Dear Sir/Madam

                Re:− Account Number
                ****************0036

                Please treat this letter as a formal request for you to supply a copy of my Consumer Credit Agreement as is my entitlement under sections 77-79 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974.

                I require you to provide me with a true copy, or reconstituted copy of the credit agreement relating to any account you deem to be mine, together with any other documentation the Act requires you to provide. I expect you to comply fully and properly with this request, within the statutory time limit.

                Your obligation also extends to providing me with a statement of account. I enclose a £1 postal order, which represents payment of the statutory fee payable under the Consumer Credit Act. I understand that a copy of my credit agreement should be supplied within 12 working days from the date of this letter.

                If it is your view that you are not the creditor, s.175 of the CCA1974 applies in the case of a simple assignment, and places a duty upon you to pass this request to the creditor. In the case of an absolute assignment, you are a creditor as defined by s.189.

                I understand that under the Consumer Credit Act, creditors are unable to enforce an agreement if they fail to comply with a request for a copy of the agreement under these sections of the Act.


                Yours faithfully,
                Good morning Reiss,

                That's fine, please let us know what transpires.

                nem

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                • #9
                  Re: Lowell vs Reiss

                  Don't forget to obtain proof of postage.
                  CAVEAT LECTOR

                  This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                  You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                  Cohen, Herb


                  There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                  gets his brain a-going.
                  Phelps, C. C.


                  "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                  The last words of John Sedgwick

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                  • #10
                    Re: Lowell vs Reiss

                    [MENTION=55034]nemesis45[/MENTION] [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION] [MENTION=5553]charitynjw[/MENTION]

                    Hi all, i'm off to post office now to send all signed for and tracked.

                    Will i have problems sending to the Lowell Solicitors Limited PO BOX address? Is the PO BOX fine? that is what is on the claim form?

                    For the claimant its: Lowell Portfolio 1 LTD, Ellighton house address

                    Thanks guys for the help will be keeping you all posted of every outcome

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                    • #11
                      Re: Lowell vs Reiss

                      Ellington house there are times when PO Boxes are not signed for! the solicitors is bases at Ellington House

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                      • #12
                        Re: Lowell vs Reiss

                        Hi [MENTION=3599]MIKE770[/MENTION]

                        So do you recommend to address both to the Ellington house address?

                        Many Thanks

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                        • #13
                          Re: Lowell vs Reiss

                          Just so everybody is in tune i have scanned my Claim Form
                          [IMG]upload pictures free[/IMG]

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                          • #14
                            Re: Lowell vs Reiss

                            You could enclose a copy of the CPR letter with the CCA request.

                            Cross-refer on the CCA letter 'Enclosed CPR 31.14 letter to be forwarded by Lowell Portfolio 1 Ltd to Lowell Solicitors Ltd'

                            Keep a copy.

                            Still send the CPR letter direct to Lowell Solicitors.
                            CAVEAT LECTOR

                            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                            Cohen, Herb


                            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                            gets his brain a-going.
                            Phelps, C. C.


                            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                            The last words of John Sedgwick

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                            • #15
                              Re: Lowell vs Reiss

                              Thank you @charitynjw for the rapid reply back, highly appreciate it.

                              I will do what you have mentioned and put the CPR letter with the CCA would that mean i should get 2 Postal orders of £1 one with this letter and one for the separate letter?

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