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Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months. HELP

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  • Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months. HELP

    I'm really hoping someone can help me I'm desperate and sick with worry.

    Sorry for this being long winded but it needs some back ground...here goes

    October 2013 we instructed builders on our architects recommendation to build a granny annexe for my ill Mother. They came to our house and the contract was drawn up JCT.

    The build was for £92149.60 and a build time of 10 weeks. Payment scale of initial payment of 14,590.35 followed by 5 bi monthly payments of 14,590.35.

    They commenced the build 11th November , but we were a bit surprised that only 1 member of the company and an unskilled labourer were all that turned up.

    By 21st December and nearly 6 weeks in very little progress had been made but I was left with no roof and 3 rooms completely derelict and completely insecure bar a tin roof. The builders actually had some hand tools stolen whilst I was out one evening.

    By this time I had paid 4 payments totalling just over 58000.

    the builders told me they would commence work after boxing day but from 21st Dcember I never saw anyone until the tuesday after new year, apart from one carpenter who was self employed and only spent 2 hours for 3 mornings in that time because he said he was bored at home. The day they finished work the scaffolding sheet came loose and broke my next door neighbours roof tiles. We asked them to fix it before they left but never did until end of February 2014.

    2 people came back after Xmas but again the work was slow until I finally had enough and really had a go at them as politely they didn't get the message. I used to make cakes and supply tea everyday and trusted them.

    The following day they sent another two contractors over which was great and things progressed at a great pace....only they only stayed 4 days .

    The quotation we had included a kitchen, and front and garage doors with a budget for each. Things were going so slow that by February I finally measured up and ordered a kitchen myself as My Mum had to vacate her home very shortly and this hadn't even been started. Also I ordered a disabled bath at the same time so as to move things along.

    I took the budget price off the quote as we had supplied them ourselves.

    Then things went horribly wrong when I walked into one ground floor room and saw huge cracks by the windows. One of the builders was quickly trying to arrange Akkros to support the upstairs. Surveyors and architects came over pronto and agreed it looked safe but inspection holes were opened up to check movement over a 2 week period. These were never checked and were still there

    Next came the finishing off, and a whole list of problems occurred. Render had massive cracks in, roof leaked, 3 different height door thresholds which were all too high for my disabled mum. A budget of 1000.00 was for a new front door and they put on a 200.00 one. Garage doors were fitted with garden shed doors and warped. Telephone wire wrapped around the soffat, my alarm box broken and not replaced , drainage sump put on the wrong side of the house so the drive flooded, drainpipes not fitted correctly so the water ran down the poor render, on the plans there should have been wood panelling outside on a bedroom wall but they had just rendered it.

    The list went on and on, now we had paid all of the payments a lot earlier as it was supposed to be a 10 week build and still 20 odd weeks later things still hadn't been finished. There was the final payment which included a retention for snagging left to pay.

    We had numerous onsite meetings with them going through all the defects and agreed but they never came back until I had an email from one of the builders telling us to get others to finish as relations had broken down. We had a threatening phone call from one of them then a list of nasty emails and one libellous email stating that we had done this before with other builders !!! This was the first thing I'd ever undertaken and took my life savings to do.

    They then took to stalking me in their van and park outside my house, then contractors who worked on the job kept hounding me for money as the builders hadn't paid them and said it was my fault as I hadn't paid the builders. 2 I paid as they were helpful during what was an awful time.

    I took some legal advice and the first thing I was told was to get an independent surveyors report from a credited list of RCIS surveyors. Another expense but I had to get professional proof to take them to court.

    The surveyors report picked up nearly 17k of faults that needed correcting or were not to plan which resulted in defects to the rest of the property. Considering at this point I only owed them approx 7.5k (not sure without going through my paperwork) This 17k was without the cost of some parts as they would need specialist quotes.

    I went back to the solicitor but as money was tight I did a lot of research and found that the 3 builders of the company had no assets whatsoever, even the vans were lease hire. I was told that the chance of getting anything out of them was 0 and it would cost me in legal fees.

    I had a meeting with the architect and we agreed that they should stop harassing me and I would have to cut my losses and forget about getting anything back from them.

    My Mum sadly died and I sold the house in the end at a reduced rate as I knew some of the work still needed doing but all the major works had been corrected thankfully by friends and ourselves.

    Fast forward to now where I moved away from the area by 180 miles . Whilst I had a probate solicitor dealing with my Mum's estate she informed of a letter addressed to no one in particular at the solicitors firm requesting outstanding monies from my Mums estate. I informed her this was nothing to do with my Mum as the contract was between me and the builders. the invoice was for 19k !!!!

    I found out this was a no win no fee lawyer and I emailed him absolutely furious that they had involved my late Mother. This quite bolshy man demanded to see all the evidence I had or I would be dealt with in court. He gave me 7 days to produce it.

    I told him that I will not show this man any proof apart from the independent surveyors report I got when I was trying to claim my money to correct the faults. He told me he won't let me produce the evidence if it did go to court anyway. I have along with the surveyors report photographs and emails to back up the failed meetings and offers of correcting things and contracts ,and if he was taking on the case then he must assume his clients have the same to back up their claims that I do owe the money.
    I am sick with worry as to know how to progress, money is very tight and not sure I could afford legal advice to go to court , can someone please help. One of the builders has even followed me on social media and as i live quite remotely it has unnerved me, my husband has to work away and only gets here every 3-4 weeks . This builder has a drink problem and scared he might even come up here, this is why I won't give this solicitor my address we only communicate via email.
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  • #2
    Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

    Hi and welcome
    What an awful scenario.
    Others will be along with more advice, but to begin with only a judge will prevent you producing evidence to a court.
    This solicitor seems pretty desperate to scare you into paying
    If you should receive a "letter before claim" or actual court papers, then you will get plenty of advice on here about how to defend yourself and even possibly lodge a counterclaim

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    • #3
      Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

      OMG des8, thank you so much, I have spent hours today putting all emails in chronological order along with the pictures that were sent and received along with all the contracts etc.

      I just don't know where to turn. This was my pension money just to give my Mum good quality life which turned into a nightmare , sadly my Mum died so I tend to put it as emotional and can't distinguish between that and what's law. This lawyer is really bullying and told me if I didn't disclose anything then I could possibly end up paying his costs too, so I did send him some pictures of some of the work and the surveyors report but he dismissed it.

      You can see by the quick reply I'm on tenterhooks for any advice ... thank you

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      • #4
        Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

        This man doesn't sound quite kosher............ can you post up the name & address of the firm chasing you?

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        • #5
          Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

          yes sure a guy called RupertHills from RH legal.co.uk

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          • #6
            Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

            Originally posted by bb41 View Post
            yes sure a guy called RupertHills from RH legal.co.uk
            These guys - http ://www. rhlegal. co. uk
            R H Legal is a niche Solicitors Practice, run by Rupert Hills. The Firm specialises in Personal Injury claims from accidents at work and road traffic accidents, to clinical negligence and criminal injuries cases. We also undertake private client work (family matters and wills and probate), and also Commercial and Civil Litigation. If you have a problem, Rupert can usually help.
            He's a one-man band
            About R H Legal Solicitors
            R H Legal is the trading name of Ferndale Legal Services Ltd. Ferndale Legal Services Ltd is registered with the Solicitors Regulation Authority as a legal practice. The practice has been in existence since 2005 and is run by Rupert Hills. Rupert is a Solicitor of the Supreme Court and has over twenty years experience in general practice and litigation. The practice is home and web based, and operates from a small village just south of Stratford upon Avon. Rupert has a vast amount of experience in dealing with both low and high value litigation, family matters, and Probate. If you wish the firm to act for you, you will deal direct with Rupert and no one else.
            Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

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            • #7
              Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

              yes thats the one

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              • #8
                Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

                you're in good hands with [MENTION=39710]des8[/MENTION] xx
                Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

                It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

                recte agens confido

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                • #9
                  Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

                  So this is a one man band organisation, who claims to specialize in everything.
                  If I was you, I'd be ignoring him but keep a record of everything he sends.
                  When you receive letters which are compliant with the proper procedures, or court papers, we can then help draft a defence and counter claim.

                  Crossed with Kati!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

                    Thanks Des8 Iwill let you know what I receive , I owe you thanks

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                    • #11
                      Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

                      You're welcome

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                      • #12
                        Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

                        Des i don't know what to say only thank you, I've spent my pension on what i thought were kosher builders, in the time they have been in my life my Mum never got the full use of her annexe because of them

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                        • #13
                          Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

                          This what I received yesterday :


                          We note that we have not received a response in this matter – kindly respond and provide the information/documents requested within 7 days failing which we will put the matter before the court.

                          We look forward to hearing from you

                          Regards

                          Rupert Hills
                          RH Legal

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                          • #14
                            Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

                            Just a quick update : I moved along way from the property in question and I set up a Facebook page for a small holiday let. (this was where my Mum was going to come and live with me before she passed away ) I have had to remove it as I noticed I had a view from the builders a few weeks ago and as they were harassing me before I didn't want them coming to my new address or trying to ruin my holiday let with horrid reviews.

                            I have just noticed this morning I have had a view from Rupert Hill the no win no fee solicitor as well. I don't want to divulge my address as I informed the solicitor from the start as I live alone a lot of the time and scared one of the builders would turn up.
                            Not sure what to do now :-( Any advice would be really good ...Thanks

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                            • #15
                              Re: Cowboy builders taking me to court with a no win no fee lawyer after 16 months.

                              [MENTION=39710]des8[/MENTION]
                              Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

                              It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

                              recte agens confido

                              ~~~~~

                              Any advice I provide is given without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

                              I can be emailed if you need my help loading pictures/documents to your thread. My email address is Kati@legalbeagles.info
                              But please include a link to your thread so I know who you are.

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