Letter Before Claim from Control Account

[lsenn]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

Right so the custom duty is the advancement fee of £10.75 and the VAT is the amount of £35.80.

Well its likely that Fedex payed a security to HMRC customs for the goods so they could deliver it to you, though you are legally responsible to pay the tax not Fedex!

As for implications to your returning to Malaysia, well who knows. I doubt any action would occur quickly enough to prevent you traveling, but you could well be stopped at the airport.

As for the Debt collection company charge £71.55 i have no idea where they get that figure from as your only obliged to pay the amount ion the original invoice. I would suggest for the sake of £46.55 that you contact fedex and arrange to pay it and ask them to call of their debt collectors! If fedex try charging the £71.55 ask them what the additional amount is for and on what legal basis are they permitted to charge it, then say you will seek advise on the additional charge and come back here and tell us what they said - So we can advise you further. DO NOT tell them your plans to leave the country

I does not wish to pay fedex because I think they are overcharging me. For a parcel that value 80 pounds, the VAT charge should be only 16 pounds instead of 35 pounds and plus the advancement fee, 10 pounds. Are you saying that it's possible for them to stop me at the airport?

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Yes.

The once tried to charge import duty on a bundle of paperwork from a court in Dubai.

nem

Sorry, do u means that this was happened in Dubai before ?

[teaboy2]

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I does not wish to pay fedex because I think they are overcharging me. For a parcel that value 80 pounds, the VAT charge should be only 16 pounds instead of 35 pounds and plus the advancement fee, 10 pounds. Are you saying that it's possible for them to stop me at the airport?

Then your correct course of action would have been to tell Fedex the correct value of the parcel, as they can only go on the declared value of the parcel. This would result in the charges being reduced to reflect the correct value of the goods. Its was not Fedex that valued the goods but the person sending them and given the difference in currency value i can see how they could easily have over valued the goods in English pounds!

As for stopping you at the airport - well its possible your information is shared by HMRC, UK Border and Customs Control and the import service provider (Fedex in this case) so it could flag up on their systems but then it may not.

And if you say the value of the goods is only £80 then your better off contacting Fedex and telling them so so they can bill you the correct amount according to the correct value of the goods.

[nemesis45]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

I had a bundle of documents sent to me, no intrinsic value, so no tax or duties payable, FedEx invoiced for £70 +

nem

[cupidstunt]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

import duty and vat is usually on the value of the goods and shipping combined..

Sometimes customs are aware when goods are under valued by the sender and revalue them to what they should be.

Usually you pay the shipping company(fedex) before goods are released.

Customs have already been paid, its fedex chasing the OP.

As for having a contract with fedex, I believe excepting the service and goods binds you to their terms.

I'm not sure, but as you are leaving the country and presume taking your things with you, then you may be able to reclaim the vat and duty.

[lsenn]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

Then your correct course of action would have been to tell Fedex the correct value of the parcel, as they can only go on the declared value of the parcel. This would result in the charges being reduced to reflect the correct value of the goods. Its was not Fedex that valued the goods but the person sending them and given the difference in currency value i can see how they could easily have over valued the goods in English pounds!

As for stopping you at the airport - well its possible your information is shared by HMRC, UK Border and Customs Control and the import service provider (Fedex in this case) so it could flag up on their systems but then it may not.

And if you say the value of the goods is only £80 then your better off contacting Fedex and telling them so so they can bill you the correct amount according to the correct value of the goods.

I already sent the letter to control account. If they insist me to pay the bill, then i will contact fedex and only pay the amount that it really cost. Thanks for your advice.

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I had a bundle of documents sent to me, no intrinsic value, so no tax or duties payable, FedEx invoiced for £70 +

nem

May i know how you deal with it last time? So you fight with Fedex regarding the invoice?
Thanks

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import duty and vat is usually on the value of the goods and shipping combined..

Sometimes customs are aware when goods are under valued by the sender and revalue them to what they should be.

Usually you pay the shipping company(fedex) before goods are released.

Customs have already been paid, its fedex chasing the OP.

As for having a contract with fedex, I believe excepting the service and goods binds you to their terms.

I'm not sure, but as you are leaving the country and presume taking your things with you, then you may be able to reclaim the vat and duty.

I dont think I can reclaim the vat and tax as i received the item more than 6 months. The problem is now is control account dealing with me rather than the fedex

[teaboy2]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

import duty and vat is usually on the value of the goods and shipping combined..

Sometimes customs are aware when goods are under valued by the sender and revalue them to what they should be.

Usually you pay the shipping company(fedex) before goods are released.

Customs have already been paid, its fedex chasing the OP.

As for having a contract with fedex, I believe excepting the service and goods binds you to their terms.

I'm not sure, but as you are leaving the country and presume taking your things with you, then you may be able to reclaim the vat and duty.

Agreed, though not sure that fedex has paid the duty and VAT as the import service only pays a security i believe.

[Kati]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/tax-and-duty

Customs Duty

You’ll be charged Customs Duty on gifts and other goods sent from outside the EU if they’re above a certain value, unless the duty comes to less than £9.
The value includes:

• the price paid for the goods
• postage, packaging and insurance

Anything under £135	No charge
Gifts worth £135-£630	2.5%, but rates are lower for some goods - call thehelpline
Gifts above £630 and other goods above £135	The rate depends on the type of goods and where they came from - call the helpline

and https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/gifts

To qualify as gifts, goods must be:

• described as gifts on the customs declaration
• for a birthday, anniversary or other occasion
• bought and sent between individuals (not companies)
• intended for personal use

It might be an idea to contact HMRC and find out if you qualify under these rules ... If so FedEx might be due a refund from them (meaning you don't have to pay anyway )

[teaboy2]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/tax-and-duty

and https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/gifts

It might be an idea to contact HMRC and find out if you qualify under these rules ... If so FedEx might be due a refund from them (meaning you don't have to pay anyway )

In addition to the duty above

You pay VAT on goods sent from non-European Union (EU) countries and EU special territories (eg the Canary Islands) if they’re:

• gifts worth more than £36
• other goods worth more than £15
• alcohol, tobacco products and fragrances (eg perfume, eau de toilette and cologne) - of any value

You have to pay VAT on all goods sent by mail order from the Channel Islands no matter what their value.



You’ll be charged at the VAT rate that applies to your goods. VAT is charged on the total value, including:

• the price paid for the goods
• postage, packaging and insurance
• any duty you owe

So if any postage and packaging was paid for via Fedex along with any insurance via fedex, then that would increase the cost/value of the goods for which VAT is chargeable too!

[cupidstunt]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

Sorry if I'm making this complicated but , Can I also add that VAT is not applicable to crash helmets ( might be all safety items?) and I believe books.

Although this annoys the OP. I get annoyed when I receive items via the post office, I've been charged VAT( may have been duty ) on very low value goods and then for that pleasure the post office adds £8 admin, it almost doubled the cost of the goods.

Sometimes I just roll over and pay all these people and fight the bigger problems, I look at it that I've got away with a lot of imports so in my case find it fair justice if I get caught for a few.

Everyone's after your money ;-)

[Kati]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

http://www.dutycalculator.com/countr...nited-Kingdom/

VAT Rates
The standard VAT rate for importing items into the United Kingdom is 20%, with certain products, for example Children's car seats, attracting VAT at the reduced rate of 5%, and some goods are exempt from VAT altogether, for example books, children clothes and children shoes. VAT is calculated on the value of the goods, plus the international shipping costs and insurance, plus any import duty due.
Minimum thresholds
For imports into the UK, there are minimum thresholds below which duty and VAT are waived.
Duty is not charged if either:

• the FOB value, i.e. the value of the goods excluding shipping and insurance cost, does not exceed £135
• the amount of duty payable does not exceed £9

VAT is not charged if:

• the FOB value, i.e. the value of the goods excluding shipping and insurance cost, does not exceed £15

[cupidstunt]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

So what was the declared value of the OP's original import.

Kati, it appears from what you posted, that a lot of stuff, that I received should not have vat added, including the OP's at £80

Could it be that the shipping companies are just charging VAT and duty regardless.

I received a motorcycle crash helmet once, that they charged duty and VAT, when I pointed out it was exempt, they cancelled the charges.

[lsenn]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

Yes I know the OP is leaving the UK permanently in a couple of weeks.

FedEx have been known for greatly " exaggerated" claims in this situation it's always
wise to challenge them.

nem

I received a reply from Fedex explaining about the breakdown of the VAT charge on my good.
They claimed that my good valued 500 euro. However, the actual value of the good is MYR500 which is clearly stated on the bill.
May I know how should I do now?
I attached the original bill and the breakdown of VAT charge below.
Thanks.

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[nemesis45]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

Hi,

I don't know the rate RM to Euro is this as far different as I think it might be?

nem

[lsenn]

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[lsenn]

Re: Letter Before Claim from Control Account

Hi,

I don't know the rate RM to Euro is this as far different as I think it might be?

nem

Sorry for confusing you. I think they made an typing error. The exchange rate is actually correct. MYR500 is equivalent to around 94pounds. However, they wrote euro instead of MYR. This is a mistake of UK custom or Fedex themselves? Can I reply Fedex about this error and argue about it?
And i dont understand initially the value of my good is 95 pounds why at the end it become 179.40 pounds? It is the double of my original good.
If Uk customes did charge VAT on my good, will they provide a receipt for the charges? Cause Fedex only provide me the breakdown of the charge instead of the receipt of the VAT charges.
Really appreciate your reply.