Dismissal for failing 3rd party vetting?

[Engy]

Hi,
I've been searching high and low for pertinent advice on my issue.

I started a position as a field engineer in Sept 2014 (on 3 month probation - passed without issue), and was told that I would be trained up to fix high level hardware for a 3rd party contract, amongst other more mundane repairs for other companies.

It wasn't until 2 months later that I was told that the 3rd party required all field engineers to undergo very high level police vetting. If I'd known this, I wouldn't have bothered applying as I have a caution from a couple of decades ago that I knew would fail me. Subsequently, I saw that on other similar positions the requirement was on the job advertisement, but not on mine and neither the employer or agency I went through told me.

Now I have failed the vetting as expected and have appealed but doubt I will pass that. The work I have been given for this 3rd party amounts to 4 calls a year so far, so is definitely not a major part of my daily work. My reading around so far is that, because I've been employed less than 2 years, the company can effectively dismiss me without reason.

Can anyone confirm this so I can start looking for a new job now?!

Many thanks in advance.

[Mineral1]

Re: Dismissal for failing 3rd party vetting?

Hi,
I've been searching high and low for pertinent advice on my issue.

I started a position as a field engineer in Sept 2014 (on 3 month probation - passed without issue), and was told that I would be trained up to fix high level hardware for a 3rd party contract, amongst other more mundane repairs for other companies.

It wasn't until 2 months later that I was told that the 3rd party required all field engineers to undergo very high level police vetting. If I'd known this, I wouldn't have bothered applying as I have a caution from a couple of decades ago that I knew would fail me. Subsequently, I saw that on other similar positions the requirement was on the job advertisement, but not on mine and neither the employer or agency I went through told me.

Now I have failed the vetting as expected and have appealed but doubt I will pass that. The work I have been given for this 3rd party amounts to 4 calls a year so far, so is definitely not a major part of my daily work. My reading around so far is that, because I've been employed less than 2 years, the company can effectively dismiss me without reason.

Can anyone confirm this so I can start looking for a new job now?!

Many thanks in advance.

Surely a caution from 20 years ago would be spent?

[Engy]

Re: Dismissal for failing 3rd party vetting?

Yes. But that doesn't matter on this level of vetting.

[SussexMan]

Re: Dismissal for failing 3rd party vetting?

Yes. But that doesn't matter on this level of vetting.

Really? Have you read this? Was it some vetting beyond a DBS check? Minor convictions from the past are now ignored and shouldn't appear on DBS checks.

However, as you've got less than 2 years employment you have limited protection and can't go down the employment tribunal route.

[Kati]

Re: Dismissal for failing 3rd party vetting?

Really? Have you read this? Was it some vetting beyond a DBS check? Minor convictions from the past are now ignored and shouldn't appear on DBS checks.

:tinysmile_twink_t2:

[Engy]

Re: Dismissal for failing 3rd party vetting?

Yes, it's NPPV vetting and DBS doesn't apply. The 3rd party contract demands all engineers from the companies it uses pass this (even though it's completely over the top, but that's a by-the-by)

I was hoping that, as the contract that requires such vetting is such a nominal part of my expected work, my employer might have to consider a reasonable adjustment rather than just dismissing me outright.

[Kati]

Re: Dismissal for failing 3rd party vetting?

Yes, it's NPPV vetting and DBS doesn't apply. The 3rd party contract demands all engineers from the companies it uses pass this (even though it's completely over the top, but that's a by-the-by)

I was hoping that, as the contract that requires such vetting is such a nominal part of my expected work, my employer might have to consider a reasonable adjustment rather than just dismissing me outright.

Ok ... NPPV clearance (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...88198703,d.d24) is Non-police personnel vetting yes?

The purpose of Non-Police Personnel Vetting (NPPV) is to provide a means of ensuring that persons other than police officers, police staff, including PCSOs, and members of the Special Constabulary, having physical or remote access to police premises, information, intelligence, financial or operational assets have been assessed as to their reliability and integrity and thus suitability for clearance.

- http://www.kent.police.uk/about_us/p...sops/p04d.html

Which level clearance were you being looked at for?

NPPV Level 1: Limited Access – No Protectively Marked Assets3.7 Level 1 applies to those persons having unsupervised access to police premises on an ad hoc basis but no access to any electronic systems and/or hard copy material. In the main this applies to utility workers such as plumbers, electricians, etc, and may, on occasions, apply to individuals on work experience, etc, if they have no access to protectively marked information or electronic systems.

3.8 It is the responsibility of the employer to ensure that the authentication process is completed and that references are sought.

3.9 This level does not afford any access to protectively marked police material or assets.

3.10 Minimum Standard Requirement: Police National Computer (PNC) and Police National Database (PND)/local intelligence checks and other non-conviction databases, including Special Branch on applicant only.

3.11 Length of clearance: 12 months.

NPPV Level 2: Unsupervised Access – Protectively Marked Assets up to CONFIDENTIAL
3.12 Level 2 applies to those persons having frequent and regular unsupervised access to police premises and/or access to police information and/or hard copy material or protectively marked material, either on police premises or by remote access.

3.13 Level 2, supported by authentication, allows regular access to police protectively marked assets up to CONFIDENTIAL and occasional access up to SECRET.

3.14 It is the responsibility of the employer to ensure that the authentication process is completed and that references are sought.

3.15 Minimum Standard Requirement: PNC and PND (Police National Database)/local intelligence checks, other non-conviction databases and Special Branch for applicant, spouse/partner and co-residents. Military and Professional Standards checks on the applicant if required. Credit Reference check on applicant. A Counter Terrorist Check (CTC) may be applied where appropriate.

3.16 Length of Clearance: 3 years.

NPPV Level 3: Unsupervised Access – Protectively marked Assets up to SECRET
3.17 Level 3 applies to all Non-Police Personnel who require long term, frequent and uncontrolled access to SECRET – POLICE, and occasional access to TOP SECRET – POLICE assets.

3.18 Level 3, supported by an SC, allows long-term frequent and uncontrolled access up to SECRET government assets.

3.19 Minimum Standard Requirement: Checks as required for Level 2 clearance to be conducted on applicant and all family members and co-residents, with full financial checks on the applicant which may be supplemented by CTC or an SC. Also requires annual vetting review.

3.20 Length of Clearance: 5 years, with annual vetting review.

[Engy]

Re: Dismissal for failing 3rd party vetting?

level 3