Ernest Wilson

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

They don't seem to be able to make their minds up on numbers. Prices, quantities, dates... almost like it's just made up. ( June 2015 and latest invoice works out but doesn't go anyway to explaining Nov 14 and May 13)



May 2013



November 2014


June 2015


Latest Invoice

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

They reckon they had over 7000 enquiries about the cafe in the last 10 years.... how many viewings were there do you think ?

[Andreawx]

Re: Ernest Wilson

My thought exactly.. Its crazy people can do this.

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6 viewings 1 of which asked my parents for a loan of £100k

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Latest Invoice:


Letter dated June 2015


Letter dated May 2015


Letter Dated November 2014

[EW Client]

Re: Ernest Wilson

There are certainly some major inconsistencies there. They're also trying to charge for commission PLUS advertising & marketing "costs". Do any other agents charge like this?

Andreawx, do you have a copy of the terms of business? If not, you can get hold of them by making a subject access request to Ernest Wilson for all the information they have on you and your parents.

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

They do seem to claim commission on top of marketing and advertising costs, we are writing to EW for copies of the agreement etc but for now this is an older section of the T&C's




A different version states

Charges, Costs & Expenses.
Sale of Shares in a Limited Company
3.0 ln the event that a sale of shares of a limited company is effected commission will be calculated in accordance with 3.01 and/or 3.02 below based upon the last advertised price of/the business and/or property prior to instruction of Solicitors to deal with such sale.

Sale of Business and/or Property or Letting of premises at a Price/Annual Rental of £60,000 or less.
3.01 Commission of two thousand pounds plus advertising and marketing plus V.A.T. will be charged on any sale at a price of forty thousand pounds or under (including the transfer of an existing lease or the sale of fixtures and/or fittings which for the purpose of this clause shall be deemed as a sale of property) or letting at an annual rental of forty thousand pounds or under. In respect of and sale letting between a price/annual rental of forty thousand pounds and sixty thousand pounds inclusive, commission will be charged at five per cent of the selling price/annual rental of the business and or property plus advertising and marketing plus V.A.T.

Sale of Business and/or Property or Letting of premises at a Price/Annual Rental greater than £60,000.
3.02 Commission of five per cent of the selling price of the said property and/or business plus V.A.T. will be charged on any sale at a price in excess of sixty thousand pounds or in the event that the premises are let and no business and/or property is sold and the annual rent exceeds sixty thousand pounds then five per cent of the annual rental plus Value Added Tax will be charged.

Advertising and Marketing Charges.
3.1 Advertising and marketing expenses will be charged at fifty pounds per newspaper insertion plus V.A.T. and Ernest Wilson business catalogue insertions at forty pounds per insertion plus V.A.T. the cost of erecting a ‘For Sale Board and Sold Slip’ will be Eighty Five pounds plus V.A.T. and for the cost of preparing photographs of the business and/or property a charge of seventy five pounds plus V.A.T. will be made plus a further ten pounds plus V.A.T. per fifty miniprint photographs ordered or printed by Ernest Wilson on your behalf.

Which says no advertising/marketing on top of commission if sale if for over £60k - unless 3.1 is handily joined with 3.02.


Normal estate agents charge what, 1.5% ?? including all marketing, accompanied viewings etc.

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Hope the FOI originator doesn't mind me posting this up - here is a copy of an FOI request response from March about the number of county court claims brought by Ernest Wilson in 2012, 2013 & 2014.

Many happy customers.

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Complaints via NFOPP http://www.nfopp-regulation.co.uk/complaints/

[Andreawx]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Hi EW Client!! I am awaiting copies to be sent by them

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Amethyst should I contact the above??

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Complainants are asked to take their complaint through The Property Ombudsman Scheme, the Ombudsman Services: Property or the Property Redress Scheme in the first instance.

Pm'ing xx

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

I've emailed NFOPP to ask them best route.

[EW Client]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Complainants are asked to take their complaint through The Property Ombudsman Scheme, the Ombudsman Services: Property or the Property Redress Scheme in the first instance.

Good work there Amethyst. Just for info, EW are currently members of only one of the above schemes (the legal minimum), The Property Ombudsman Scheme.

Andreawx, have you personally signed any agreements with EW? If not, you have no obligations to them at all.

[Andreawx]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Ernest wilsons are chasing my mother for a debt for advertising there café for sale, over 10years they had it on there books. Alas my dad passed away in 2014, unfortunately my mother was unable to run the café alone and sadly sold at auction for less than half the original valuation. NOT SOLD BT ERNEST WILSON.. Today I received a copy of there so called contract that my dad had signed... NO signature from my mother???? oh what to do??

[Kati]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Ernest wilsons are chasing my mother for a debt for advertising there café for sale, over 10years they had it on there books. Alas my dad passed away in 2014, unfortunately my mother was unable to run the café alone and sadly sold at auction for less than half the original valuation. NOT SOLD BT ERNEST WILSON.. Today I received a copy of there so called contract that my dad had signed... NO signature from my mother???? oh what to do??

[MENTION=73759]Andreawx[/MENTION] ... have you sent these to [MENTION=6]Amethyst[/MENTION]?? I know she's been looking into this for you xx

[Andreawx]

Re: Ernest Wilson

I certainly have Kati xx