Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

[Sapphire]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

Personally I'd rather work the extra hours and stay in a job, than go and sit in a job centre once a week/fortnight/month whatever it is. My advice to you, keep the job and keep looking in the meantime.
Speaking as an employer if two people of the same capabilities came for a job and one was out of work and not seen to be looking and the other was working and looking, I'd take the second one, he's shown he wants to work.

[dj9928]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

Personally I'd rather work the extra hours and stay in a job, than go and sit in a job centre once a week/fortnight/month whatever it is. My advice to you, keep the job and keep looking in the meantime.
Speaking as an employer if two people of the same capabilities came for a job and one was out of work and not seen to be looking and the other was working and looking, I'd take the second one, he's shown he wants to work.

I have 3 kids and rent my home, its more the fact I was as well of when I was unemployed and didn't have to take crap day in day out, sure I had no prospects but I still don't in this job as its dead end.

[Sapphire]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

I have 3 kids and rent my home, its more the fact I was as well of when I was unemployed and didn't have to take crap day in day out, sure I had no prospects but I still don't in this job as its dead end.

That's an awful attitude to have, and not a good example to set you're kids either.

[leclerc]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

I have 3 kids and rent my home, its more the fact I was as well of when I was unemployed and didn't have to take crap day in day out, sure I had no prospects but I still don't in this job as its dead end.

You were well off financially but having a job is not just about that. It's more than that, it's the fact that a person pays their own way rather than have to rely on the state to subsidise them.
Can I ask if the bedroom tax(so called) would have any affect if you were sacked?
What would be the affect on your future job changes by being sacked?
what would it say about you if you simply left the job and were then applying for job roles where you are competing against people who are already working?
Have you considered working as a Healthcare assistant at your local hospital as the pay would be better?

When I got sacked, I wanted to work and that meant anything and it took me three months and I work 2 jobs now and you may well be better off financially from this month as a result of working. Benefits are not going up but are being capped and are being looked at more negatively. I'd rather work in crap than not work at all.

[Sapphire]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

That's the thing, you've got to be sacked to get the benefits, if anyone just leaves I do believe that it takes a lot longer to get in the 'system', is the OP prepared for that ?
Personally I'd rather work and show my kids good morals than sit on my arse showing my kids that the only way is signing on.

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

Even getting sacked now can be classed as gross misconduct, depending on what you were sacked for

Performance will be exempt, anything else will be seen as fair game by the DWP

[dj9928]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

You were well off financially but having a job is not just about that. It's more than that, it's the fact that a person pays their own way rather than have to rely on the state to subsidise them.
Can I ask if the bedroom tax(so called) would have any affect if you were sacked?
What would be the affect on your future job changes by being sacked?
what would it say about you if you simply left the job and were then applying for job roles where you are competing against people who are already working?
Have you considered working as a Healthcare assistant at your local hospital as the pay would be better?

When I got sacked, I wanted to work and that meant anything and it took me three months and I work 2 jobs now and you may well be better off financially from this month as a result of working. Benefits are not going up but are being capped and are being looked at more negatively. I'd rather work in crap than not work at all.

How will I be better off?

[dj9928]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

That's the thing, you've got to be sacked to get the benefits, if anyone just leaves I do believe that it takes a lot longer to get in the 'system', is the OP prepared for that ?
Personally I'd rather work and show my kids good morals than sit on my arse showing my kids that the only way is signing on.

I have worked all my life bar 1 stint of unemployment when I was made redundant which lasted 3-4 months, however I earned more 10 years ago than I do now, Its all well and good doing the right thing, setting a good example for my kids etc, it does for a while but morale soon drops when you realize your struggling away doing 43+ hour weeks and aren't really any better off for it, there are many more in the same boat as myself, I don't blame the employers, I blame the government for allowing things to get this way.

[wales01man]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

Im a firm believer that if you can work and theres a job you can do you should doit benefits are a safety net not a crutch to rely on,having a disabled wfe who would love to work and being her carer i would work but at my age and with my health i cant work doing what i know i could do but because of my only health problems i cant im really peed of about it,
Before benefits come in to it i only get carers allowance and a small pension i wish i could turn the clock back healthwise but that aint gonna happen for either of us,to the OP i say carryon with the job until you find one that suits you better as for 43 hour weeks with 3 kids when they were young we both worked 60 plus hours a week and kept a family and home going its called life make the most of what you got

[Eloise01]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

I don't blame the employers, I blame the government for allowing things to get this way.

It would take a huge leap of the imagination to even suggest that I support the government on anything, but what.....????

The government did not decide that your basic working week would be 43 hours, that they would pay you a crap rate of pay, or that they would require you to do overtime at the drop of a hat. That is entirely the employers choice. If you don't like it then do something about it. Either find better work, or organise. That has always been the workers choice.

Tolpuddle martyrs, you wasted your effort....!

[wales01man]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

If you ask a conservative it was the fault of the last labour government LOL

[leclerc]

Re: Getting out of overtime without getting sacked?

How will I be better off?

You might have noticed the word "may" because without knowing the previous questions that I asked then you are asking me to say you "will" be better off which suggests to me that you think I know all your circumstances without them being posted on this thread.

The best piece of advice my mother gave me was "never quit a job unless you have another one to go to" so I didn't but I did get sacked so technically in the end she was right