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    I am currently defending a case that Anglian Home Improvements have issued against one of their customers.

    It involves the mis-selling for a conservatory to a retired couple. Due to the lack of time spent with the couple by the salesman/installation team at Anglian Home Improvements, it was only noticed that the wrong conservatory was ordered (flat roof lean-to, not Victorian roof) when the old conservatory was being taken down, at which point all works were stopped and an attempt was made with Anglain Home Improvements to come to an amicable arrangement to install the correct conservatory. However, Anglain Home Improvements would only commence work for the correct conservatory if the customer paid 80% of the cost of the old conservatory, as per contract e.g. around £7,727.00, on top of the £1,300 already paid - as they stated that they had incurred costs, by making the product. Obviously we felt this to be unacceptable and tried to negotiate a reduced amount, however, Anglian Home Improvments refused and for this reason we sought out another contractor who has now completed the works as per the customers request.

    Anglian Home Improvements however were not satisfied with the 10% deposit paid by the customer and are now seeking a reduced cost of £3.5K, an amount which has never been requested before, through Norwich County Court claiming breech of contract. The customer has now had the notice of this from the courts and are intending to serve an acknowledgement ASAP and the defence below has been put together, which included having the case transfered to a court closer to the defendant

    If anyone here has any suggestions how we should proceed with this I would be very grateful to hear them, this is the first time we have every done this so its all very new. I have put below the defence that we have put together - could anyone help me add more to this ??



    PS list of problems other customers are having with Anglaim Home Improvements??
    http://www.blagger.com/db4/company_id/248/companyname/Anglian-Windows.html

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    In the Norwich County Court
    Claim number






    Between Anglian Homes Improvements – Claimant


    and


    Defendant




    Defence


    1. The defendant denies all allegations and claims made in the claimants Particulars of Claim and put the claimant to strict proof thereof.

    2. The defendant claims that the product was mis-sold by the claimant, and relied on the defendant’s age and naivety to deliberately miss-sell their product.

    3. The Particulars of Claim are vague and insufficient and do not disclose an adequate statement of facts relating to or proceeding the alleged cause of action. No particulars are offered in relation to the nature of the written agreement referred to. The defendant requests : -

    a) A copy of the purported written agreement that the claimant cites in the Particulars of Claim, and which appears to form the basis upon which these proceedings have been brought, has not been served attached to the claim form.

    4. Consequently, I deny all allegations on the particulars of claim and do not know what case I have to meet.

    5. The courts attention is drawn to the fact that at no stage were the defendants told that they were being sold a Lean-to or any flat roof construction.

    6. On the date of signing the agreement, the defendants were told verbally that they were being sold a Victorian Conservatory, as per the request at the initial consultation, and at no stage were they told that this had been changed or altered.

    7. The defendant wishes to draw attention to the court that the claimant did not spend adequate time in explaining what was being sold, or provide sufficient detailed plans. As a result it was only noticed by the defendant that the wrong conservatory was being issued when the old conservatory was being dismantled. At this point the claimant stopped and an attempted to co-operate FULLY with Anglain Home Improvements to come to an amicable arrangement to install the correct conservatory.

    8. On the 27 October 2008, the claimant wrote, in the attached e-mail, that the cost they were requesting from the defendant was £7,727.00 (80% of the contact value) and subsequently stated that they would not reduce this amount in any amicable agreement. However, now the claimant has reduced this amount without any reasoning. The defendant is confused how such figures can be conjured up and then changed without any justification.

    9. The defendant wishes the court to know that the claimant would only commence work for the correct conservatory if the amount stated in item 8 was paid in full. The defendant believes that the failure of the claimant to negotiate a reduced amount, to be unreasonable and resulting in an alternative contractor being sought.

    10. The defendant believes the claimant’s refusal to come to an amicable agreement in the discussions at the end of October has directly lead to the escalation of this matter.

    11. The Defendant has made a payment of 10% at the initial instigation of the contract and believes this is fair and reasonable for the amount of work/services that the claimant has provided. The defendant believes that if there has been any subsequent losses, that has not been proved by the claimant, it is down to their misselling and greed as detailed in items 7 & 8.

    12. I respectfully ask the court to make arrangements for this case to be transferred to the Cardiff County Court defined under CPR 30.2.

    Statement of Truth


    I believe the above statement to be true and factual



    Signed .....................

    Date 24 April 2009

  • #2
    Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

    Has you clients also sought the original documents that was completed by the representative of Anglian Homes(the wrong ones that is)?

    EDIT: are you counterclaiming at all for any of the 10% deposit since they did not get the correct product?

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    • #3
      Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

      They do have the original contract documents and drawing - both of which they signed, however, they are very vague, referring to the lean-to as a Garden House, which my clients presumed was a Victorian conservatory. And the drawings, that were not detailed, which they again believed to be a Victorian conservatory - I have myself purchased a Victorian conservatory from this company, and the drawings I had were very clear and detailed, when I put this to Anglian they stated that they had changed the way they produced the drawings to cut costs.


      As for the 10% deposit, we have not put in a counterclaim as we feel this to be a reasonable amount for the work that has been done, e.g. dismantling of the old conservatory and producing the drawings.

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      • #4
        Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

        Originally posted by James2007uk View Post
        They do have the original contract documents and drawing
        Have you got a copy of these which you can scan and post up, as this will be a main part of the case.

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        • #5
          Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

          Can you also post up their POC please

          PKea

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          • #6
            Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

            I have the scan of what you require, but I cant find how to put it on here... can anyone point me in the right direction??

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            • #7
              Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

              under the reply it says GO ADVANCED. Hit that button and underneath it says MANAGE ATTACHMENTS

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              • #8
                Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

                Ok, i've attached it to this message


                [edit: have taken down attachment as it had your personal address on]
                Last edited by Amethyst; 27th April 2009, 14:08:PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

                  James you need to remove the attachment and make sure the names are not visible to one and all.

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                  • #10
                    Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

                    Okay i have saved your PDF and will amend it to remove your personal details and put it back up. will also have a look through your defence, their POC is basically a lie, judging by what you have said the actual circumstance are. If you have a copy of the original order placed/agreed and original contract that would be most helpful.
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                    • #11
                      Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

                      On the terms and conditions(Part 5) did they suspend the works because of the wrong thing had been delivered?
                      ------------------------------- merged -------------------------------
                      Contract is signed on 26th not 28th August
                      ------------------------------- merged -------------------------------
                      point 3 is total nonsense from them on their claim form.(I should add I have the original PDF unapproved so am looking through it now)
                      Have you got anything in writing from them that it was the wrong specification?
                      ------------------------------- merged -------------------------------
                      I don;t get their figures that they are claiming. Part 9, states what they can charge in their terms and conditions.
                      Last edited by natweststaffmember; 27th April 2009, 14:36:PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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                      • #12
                        Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

                        reposted without addresses
                        Last edited by James2007uk; 27th April 2009, 15:47:PM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

                          you missed an address(page 2)

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                          • #14
                            Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

                            No works were suspended by client because they thought we were getting a victorian, no goods were delivered, it was a conversation with the instalation team when they were distamantling the old lean-to

                            Yes, i'm not sure what point 3 is trying to say either

                            No not sure how they get the building costs figure either - a bit vague

                            thanks for taking the time to look

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                            • #15
                              Re: mis-sold conservatory, company is claiming breech of contract

                              Point 3 is clearly a suspension of works so did they then send out a new contract proposal?

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